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01 June 2006 @ 02:47 pm
Help: Egogenesis & Related Magicolinguistics  
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I'm finalizing the writing outline for my chapter on "Levels of Manifestation," and I need help finalizing my terminology. I could simply borrow all the spiffy yogic terminology in Sanskrit for all of this, but that would (severely!) defeat the self-stated purpose of a common magicolinguistics within the Integral Magickal Model.

In discussing nonduality (causal realm) and duality (subtle+physical realms) and the experience of crossing them (through the Abyssal Margin between causal and subtle realms) the main subjective characteristic in passing through the Abyss is the assumption of ego (involutionary/descending current causal-->subtle) and the dissolution of ego (evolutionary/ascending current subtle-->causal).1

I'm trying to come up with simple, sensible, one-word phrases for these two processes. I've currently reduced them to the working-model 2-word phrases, above. (Which I may yet stick with if they ultimately prove to be the most weildly.)

"Egogenesis" is my current handle word for the involutionary aspect, of descending through the Abyss and assuming one's ego (sense of self/identity).

However, I have no corresponding word for the dissolution of ego. Perhaps something with the same format, "ego-" suffixed with a Latin or Greek word/root/stem meaning something along the lines of "destruction/dissolution/removal/shedding." Or maybe something else entirely.

I'm not entirely fixed on "egogenesis" either, if anyone has other suggestions. Because technically I don't see it as a genesis -- ego is not created, ego is assumed as an affectation layered over the higher self. If I could convery that in a single word, I'd be thrilled to death.

Alternate 2-word versions welcomed as well, if they help convey more of the entire picture.

Comments desired, questions answered, discussions welcomed.


1 If that made no immediate sense, reference the Three Realms diagram.
 
 
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badgerbadger on June 1st, 2006 09:54 pm (UTC)
Because technically I don't see it as a genesis -- ego is not created, ego is assumed as an affectation layered over the higher self.

How about "accretion"? Ego accretion to me conveys the idea of layer(s) accumulated.
Fenwick Kaidevis Rysenkaidevis on June 1st, 2006 10:47 pm (UTC)
Accretion implies that the ego is made of smaller parts, whereas I'm trying to stick closer to the sense of ego as it's represented in the Sankhya philosophy of yoga as "ahamkara" -- literally, "I-maker", the capacity of self to identify as Self separate from Other. As such it doesn't "accrete" so much as it represents an ability or aspect gained as spirit involves itself in denser realms. (Evolution/Evolve, Involution/Involve.) I think "genesis" still comes closer than "accretion" and has the benefit of being easily compounded into "egogenesis."

Good thought, though.
dave eachadachad on June 1st, 2006 10:01 pm (UTC)
i call it 'hatching', but it's probably more larval a process than dualistic, so 'hatch, pupate, mutate'

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Your Friendly Neighbourhood Heresiarchadayinthelife on June 1st, 2006 10:49 pm (UTC)
something with "ego" and "solve" egosolution? or really, the opposite of genesis would be something like death..."egocide" sounds kind of extreme. neither really do it for me, but maybe you could do something with the roots.
Deadnettle: hex masksdeadnettle on June 2nd, 2006 12:12 am (UTC)
Egogenesis sounds a bit like individuation: if you describe it like that, it might make sense to describe the evolutionary process as 'dissolution'.
endoveliconendovelicon on June 2nd, 2006 03:09 am (UTC)
Maybe the binary formula of Alchemy, "Solve/Coagula"???
Xi O'Teaz: buddy christxi_o_teaz on June 3rd, 2006 01:01 am (UTC)
"Ego Changing Station"

:-D
Riaria777 on June 9th, 2006 05:07 am (UTC)
de-selfing and re-selfing.
Chakrahchakrah on June 20th, 2006 09:13 pm (UTC)
Yeah for the thesaurus...the last living dinosaur!
assumption of ego ~ self-aware, actualization, self-actualized
dissolution of ego ~ selflessness

ego-demise?

Of course there's always ascension (of the self) and descension.
seeker1976seeker1976 on December 1st, 2006 02:23 am (UTC)
In my dabbling with painting, music and poetry, I've used the term "self-sublimation". Perhaps "autosublimation" might serve. I dunno, something like that? Maybe self-subsumption, for goofier onomatopaeia.

Arts typically have the common issue of expressing oneself or simply expressing something higher; an artist will not play the piano, but the music will play itself Through their hands to the keys and the sound. Perhaps more common with painting; one forgets oneself and simply becomes the process of perceiving a still-life or a concept and rendering it on canvas through pigments. Modern poetry is much more self-involved... At readings, I've seen too many people speaking their mind, talking too much, concentrating on style, form and their pose to reach any truth, or even make tolerable poetry.

Comes into acting, too. Some actors just play themselves, or some follow the British model and Think Like Their Characters- and thus Britcoms often have better acting than most American movies!
(Anonymous) on November 16th, 2010 12:00 pm (UTC)
a term for the abyssal ego
The Dieresis of the Ego? Just a thought...